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Queer readings of The Lord of the Rings are not accidents
[Ed. note: This essay contains discussion of homophobia and mention of suicide.]
I was 12 in 2003, when The Return of the King was in theaters, and Frodo kissing Sam goodbye as he left Middle-earth made me sob like my heart was entity ripped out, without understanding why. Outside of the protected darkness of the theater, in the Mordor-like wasteland of middle school, the movies were synonymous with the favored insult of the time — “gay.”
Brokeback Mountain wouldn’t arrive out for two more years, and none of us had seen a movie on the big screen where men hold each other, comfort each other, kiss each other’s foreheads. Early-2000s preteen America was a time of gay jokes, of “no homo,” of mocking voices and slurs, and confidential, punitive violence enacted in the locker room against anyone who had a whiff of otherness. In that society, the Lord of the Rings trilogy stood out as deeply earnest, and therefore vulnerable.
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A definitive list of the times Frodo and Sam proved they were a couple
Does this look appreciate a friendly gesture to you? (Image: Archi Banal)
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Does this look like a amiable gesture to you? (Image: Archi Banal)
Best friends going on a hike to destroy some jewellery? Yeah, right.
This post was written with the extended editions of the films as base texts, because more minutes mean more chances to prove your homosexual coupledom.
Look, this is not a new theory: the two hobbits at the centre of The Lord of the Rings are not best friends, but in fact, a gay couple. Since Peter Jackson’s trilogy came out, and honestly even after the books came out, the subtext of this relationship has been pored over by queer fandom, the fandom that will read years of longing into a single glance.
While I’m loath to carry out that – we’ve got a lot of lgbtq+ texts these days, we don’t really need gender non-conforming subtext too – I’m not so sure that Frodo and Sam’s connection rests in the shadows. That’s especially true in Jackson’s trilogy, where more time is spent on this relationship than on any actual romantic relationships (Eowyn and Faramir don’t count).
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Yeah, the Arwen being 13 thing is terrible....
A couple people have mentioned the sexual Aragorn/Arwen/Boromir scene as something that’s ALMOST valid ) because it ends with Aragorn and Boromir having a passionate makeout session-- gay rights, etc---
BUT people were understandably so distracted by Everything Else that they missed the unveil that this version of Arwen is randomly a child.
For those of you who haven’t read it--- what happens is that Arwen goes up to Aragorn and Boromir and is like“you guys want to get along so I’ll bind you as blood brothers in a magical ritual.” Then she does what @cowboyeowyn described-- kissing a sword so that her lips bleed, then kissing both of them on the lips and then having them kiss each other.
1. wow u really wrote a justification into ur script for two grown-ass elder men to kiss a literal child
2.They wanted this shock-value moment of two men kissing, but also wanted to make sure you understood it wasn’t gay. So they added some stupid ritual where the two men kissed a literal child first so that you would understand the kiss was supposed to be understood as platonic.
“I’m not homosexual, it’s just a 13 year o Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took (better known as Merry and Pippin) are incredibly close friends, not to refer that they are also first cousins — Esmeralda Brandybuck, Merry's mother, happens to be Paladin Took's younger sister. Together, they make the naughtiest, yet most adorable, pair in all of Hobbiton, probably even the Shire. RELATED: Lord Of The Rings: 10 Major Things The Movies Cut (Because They Had To) Their many childhood antics notwithstanding, Merry and Pippin become important players in The Lord of the Rings storyline after "forcing" Frodo into accepting their aid and company on his quest. There are a not many important facts about this pair that own not been mentioned in the cinematic versions. Although not a very complicated character, Frodo's family tree bears more fruit than it could possibly maintain . In fact, the Baggins patriarch, Balbo, had five children, each of whom produced a number of their hold offspring. Along one line there are the male descendants (those who have retained the name enjoy Bilbo and his nephew), but
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This is a topic that has been hotly debated both in-game and on Discord, and a few weeks ago I found myself in just such a debate. (This is how it went down: one party made a joke about gay Elves. Another party immediately took offence and insisted that the mere idea of gay Elves breaks canon. And so an argument began.) The debate seemed to agree on the conclusion that Elves can only be heterosexual because they are (to simply matters) biologically primed to conform to Tolkien’s orthodox Catholic views. However, the arguments given never sat well with me, so I wanted badly to revisit this topic, and this moment in a setting much more controlled and uncomplicated to keep track of: the forums. (It only took me so lengthy because I had builds to work on.)
What I will be doing in this post is to quote all the relevant arguments, and refute them as best I can, and concede where I can’t. So-doing I will attempt to demonstrate how, despite whatever Tolkien’s retain views may have bee